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Donate your unused unopened Advocare to me please.
Supplements to 12 year olds
:roll blatant abuse of authority to sell product!
Pam Giese is a scammer. Alert Alert stay away from these Advocare advisors
she is NOT a scammer. you should be sued for slander.
You should look up companies before investing!
But as a rule of thumb, any company that sells you stuff and tells you to sell it to others and recruit a sales team is just a pyramid scheme!
I suggest u sue it's a guaranteed win!
As for your friend who's card was charged without authorization, why doesn't he just dispute the charges?
You are slandering a good person and you should be held accountable for your malicious public assault. People buy products and consciously make their own decisions.
I have nothing to do with the products and know Pam from a distance. She is a decent kind human being and your verbal assault is no less than disrespectful
You wk for the company, this violates terms. No one sticks uo for a sham co for nothing. Your comment should be removed.
It's not slander when he is telling people about his personal experience.
Plus, the company he is talking about is being discussed on the news as a pyramid scheme and I'm pretty sure we we will be hearing about them being sued soon just like all the other companies that used the same business model "the customers are the sales representatives"
How was your friend charged without their permission. The customer would to have had to go to the website and enter in the order and then provide their credit card at that time. It would not have been something the distributor would have had access to.
I would be willing to buy some of the skin care Definite Difference products you're stuck with...I loved their exfoliator which was discontinued a couple years back..and I love their two moisturizers...and all their skin care is now discontinued. Please let me know if anyone has these for sale--I have the most tricky and sensitive skin and I don't know what I'll do when all my exfoliator stock and moisturizers from the Advocare Definite Difference line run out.
Post here and I'll contact you. PC
AdvoCare.com/15055****
They have skin care line now
And you decide to buy into this smarmy direct marketing *** because a rep tells you that you will make thousands? Idiots.
How does anyone not return these products? If they are un opened I was told you can return them for up to a year.
If you don't like the person you bought the products through;
then deal with the company direct.
I personally have lost 38 pounds. I needed to loose. I am a professional athlete and know many athletes over 40 that love these products.
To each his own. Such anger!
Slander
i lost 15 pounds on my 24 day challenge and continue to use product. people that say they followed the products to the T and had no results are full of ***.
i am a personal trainer and when a client tells me they been eating healthy and not drinking on the wknds i know there full of ***. because when body fat percentage goes up and the numbers on the scale go up there there obviously not doing something right.
You can't slander a product.
You advogroupies are hilarious!!! You don't even know the difference between libel and slander yet you want people to trust you with their health?!?
Dietitians and nutritionists spend years in school obtaining an education, something you obviously have never done.
Get the Facts Straight! Did You Know?…
1.NCAA Drug Testing is year round. Compliance does not take the summer off and drug testing is a compliance issue. A positive drug test results in loss of scholarship.
2.The Food and Drug Administration does not regulate supplements like they do other foods. According to the Governmental Accountability Office (GAO), nutrition companies are left to self-regulate their products according to the Supplemental Health and Education Act of 1994. Very few companies test at all because testing is very expensive.
3.Advocare products are guaranteed “banned-substance free” by Informed-Choice which is the largest anti-doping lab in the world based out of London, England. Advocare products meet the standards of the Olympics, NCAA, NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL, PGA, LPGA, NASCAR, Major League Soccer, ATP and WTA. www.informed-choice.org
4.Advocare tests for over 200+ banned-substances and the next leading company in the US only tests for approximately 30 banned-substances.5.Not all “WHEY” proteins are created equal. All Advocare whey proteins are “pre-digestible” and totally pure which means that your body uptakes the full amount of protein in all our products. The inferior “whey” proteins are made up of cheap proteins derived from ground-up human hair, ground-up chicken feathers, ground-up horse hooves and ground-up chicken beaks. The body only absorbs around 10% of these cheap proteins because they are not pre-digestible. For more information Google “International Journal of Food Engineering RSS” and put in the search block “whey protein from chicken feathers.”
6.July 2010 Consumer Report ran an article that showed that EAS Myoplex Rich Dark Chocolate contains the most “arsenic” (rat poison) of any protein on the market. In that same article, Muscle Milk Chocolate and Muscle Milk Vanilla were cited for having the most “lead” of any proteins on the market. www.consumerreports.org
7.NCAA drug testing policy can be found at www.ncaa.org. NCAA Drug Education and Drug-Testing subcommittee (DEDT) …notes a significant number of positive drug tests of student athletes who report the use of over-the-counter nutritional supplements… Many student athletes assume if these products can be purchased at a health food store, they must be allowed under the NCAA rules. This is not true! Appeals based on this argument have not been successful in overturning a positive drug-test penalty.
8.Advocare Rehydration Drink is far superior to any other rehydration product in the world. Rehydrate is in many coolers in the NFL. Look at the comparison between Advocare Rehydrate and Gatorade that appeared in the August 2010 issue of The Journal of the International Society of Sports Nutrition. www.jissn.com
9.NFL Players cannot shop at, or endorse, GNC since 25% of all products on the shelves at GNC contains banned-substances. For complete list visit www.nflplayers.com
10.Advocare has the most non-paid endorsers of any company in the world. NFL players such as Drew Brees, Colt McCoy, DeAngelo Williams, Danny Woodhead, Owen Daniels, Mike Sellers, Ellis Hobbs III, Darryl Tapp and others trust their nutritional needs to Advocare. Colt McCoy says “Advocare Products give me a competitive edge, they are safe, they’re easy to use, and they make me feel good.”
11.The Advocare Sports Advisory Council includes college strength coaches from the following universities: Ohio State, Oklahoma, Auburn, Wisconsin, Texas A&M, Airforce Academy, Rice and more.
This is my simple reply to a poster only known as "atdnr" who has his/her own blog on the subject as well:
There are many people using the direct sales model to make extra income, or even to replace income. I find your targeting this singular company evidence of a wounding or bad experience with this one particular industry or even this one particular company.
There are many companies which have suffered lawsuits and slanderous accusations such as these. Mary Kay, Arbonne, Avon, Amway, Herbalife, Scentsy, Pampered Chef, Nanci & Tupperware just to name a few which have all suffered trials and tribulations, suffered distributors with entitlement mentality, or even distributors who became so successful that they decided they deserved a portion of the company assets. Those circumstances do not dictate that the company is a bad company or that direct sales is a poor choice in life. I find it difficult to believe that YOU, "atdnr", are an expert on AdvoCare or an expert on their internal workings, or an expert on their difficulties after Mr.
Ragus passed. Anyone who reads your article should keep in mind that it is an inaccurate compilation of unsupported and often misquoted data copied and pasted out of context from the internet. What am I saying? That is what I am saying.
At least one or more couples who have had issues with the company you are targeting can be found successful in the direct sales market with another company.
Give them a break from being your personal stones for your slingshot and focus on... planning and working out your own life.
ADOVCARE
2 years into Advocare and could not be happier. The ONLY variable is me.
With over 70 products there is something every one of you will love more than the money it costs.
Personally, the 4pm Spark has made be a better daddy to our adopted, special-needs boy.
Energetic and forgiving is SO much better than tired and frustrated. Love it!
Haha...The guy who said, "You probably work for a competitor with less superior of a product like Isagenix"...You're kidding right? First of all, I would never take a post like the one above seriously.
Second, I've researched all the MLM companies in the Health & Wellness Industry and ISAGENIX wins by a landslide!! Way better products (all natural, best sourced protein, list goes on...) and the best compensation program. You don't think so? Challenge me!
Here's my contact info. Vince - vfree68@***.com Here's my cell, 678-446-****.
I'm here to help and inform people that really want to lose weight and feel great. Cheers!
Vince, You're hilarious!!!
You think that countering one scam with another scam is going to get you a sale?!?!
Yes, ISAGENIX is a SCAM!!!
Just like Advocare, there are ZERO peer reviewed clinical trials proving the company claims!
Oh, and before you counter with the one -very small - study that ISACRAP promotes, take a good look at it. The only thing it proves is that the people behind ISACRAP will significantly stretch the truth in order to get someone to give up their cash.
You may have possibly misspoke, but one can't order directly from the AdvoCare website, you have to contact and order from an AdvoCare distributor. That is where you get the diet plan and directions as well as the support. Just saying
JUST TO MAKE YOU AWARE IF YOU ARE READING THESE REVIEWS. I did not post the comment #7 on June 6, 2012.
Someone has made up an account just to steal my identity and posting negative information about me and Advocare, the company that I actually do believe in and use the products as well as I am an Independent Distributor who is helping people with lifestyle changes.
I have even asked this site to remove all of the 3 postings that someone felt they needed to post to try to hurt me as well as interfere with the success that Advocare is having in our community of Denham Springs and Watson, LA.
THE REAL Karla Cormier who is proud to be an Independent Distributor of AdvoCare products.
At the gym owner, your
so full of ***! You probably work for some other company with a less superior product like Isagenix. Grow up!!
I am wondering if you just went to the site and ordered or if you actually talked with a distibutor or an advisor? EVERYONE I know who has done the 24 day challenge saw amazing results and felt sooo much better!
I am on day 2 of the cleanse and yes, I have gone to the bathroom a few more times than I normally do, but I have not spent my whole day on the toilet. But as I was told by an advisor, you have to cut out the dairy, bleached carbs, and eat 4 small meals a day at least for the first 10 days...I'm sorry that you weren't informed before you bought.
;) Way more positive comments. I have seen the products and the business do great things.Alot of it does depend on common sense food choices and the willingness to step out of your 'unhealthy comfort zone'.Change is never easy but way worth it to get healthy and hopefully add years to your life and live a much more fullfilled life if desired!
It seems no one really answered your problem about being in the bathroom. I have used advocare and other supplements before.
Depending on your lifestyle and the types of food you eat the "cleansing" part of the diet helps rid our bodies of toxins and sometimes using the bathroom more than normal is the effect of this. If you have not contacted someone else who has responded I definitely would contact one of these guys they seem ready to help you out.
Well i dont who ur advisor is but they didnt do there job! I signed up as a distributor last weekend and i started my 24 day challenge on thursday June 14th and as of today the 19th i have already lost 7lbs.
You have to use the directions that come with all the products and are on the bottles..
eat right and make sure u eat snacks in between ur meals.. the products do work if followed correctly..
Advocare products are the best out there...
Interesting company policy, calling your target audience names. .... Thanks for helping me decide.
The advocare distributor I know has become as certifiably crazy as you are. I waited to see her results before I joined, I'm thankful to say.
Sounds like the crazy denise novicki advobydenise _warning if you buy into her story you are a fool.
I am now convinced I do niot want to be affiliated with Advocare losers!
Umm...is it safe to say it causes anger issues. lol
Dedca4,
I know you feel strongly about AdvoCare, but posting a comment like that does not embody the professionalism, integrity, and character that this company is all about. Give them the bullet proof shield with the science behind it, the safety and effectiveness trustedby thousands of athletes nation wide, and the fact that our products are tested by informed choice and is consumed by Olympic athletes who know they have nothing to fear as far as banned substances. These products and this company stand up to the test so lettletthem stand alone without profanity or vulgarity.
HA! Ha! ha!
klp, you crack me up!!! The o.p. was a perfect example of Adovcare "professionalism"!
What is Advocare "all about"?
It's about scamming people out of their money by telling lies and half-truths about the products. What, exactly, is the "science behind it"? In 20 years, Advocare has NEVER produced ANY scientific proof that their products work!
If Adocare products are so "safe" then why doesn't the NFL recognize them? Advocare products are NOT NSF Certified for Sport. NSF is the ONLY testing company that the NFLPA trusts!
So, please, what test does Advocare stand up to? If that test involves honesty and integrity, Advocare will never earn a passing grade!!!
Okay. You can tell this kid invested in the roidrage product.
And get your abbreviations right. "Your" starts with a y. Clearly *** of the earth.
Can't type without cursing. Forget advocare I'd like to file a complaint on this angry child.
I agree with you. If you can't post witouth all the ##@@@!!** you just made yourself look like an uneduated ***.
^uneducated
Advocare distributor
If you have an allergic reaction, why would you continue to take Advocare? It is not their fault you are allergic, just stop taking it. The fact that you spent 3500.00 on something you were allergic to, is just plain ***.
I drank the spark today for the first time and I too had an allergic reaction, itching all over my body and headache and hot on my face.
How can I buy some of your product - esp the skin care line? They discontinued it unexpectedly and it was the only thing I've had no reaction to in years. I'm in Illinois near Chicago.
im allergic to spark fruit punch. it could be you are specifically allergic to certain flavors.
im not allergic to any of the other flavors. just an fyi to you and every one else (from a very educated nutritionist), you are at a risk when you take any new supplements from any comapany, be prepared with something like benedryl always.
you need to go to an allergist and get a allergy skin test done so you can specifically avoid certain herbs and supplements by reading the labels.
Seems to me your foolish for continuing to use something if it doesn't agree with you. Specially to the tune of 3k plus.
Please do yourself a great favor and check out Yoli.com!! It is an amazing system and all products are 100% natural.
One of our friends found out she was allergic to one of the ingredient in an Advocare product. She told her Distributor and they got with the team scientist that take care of Advocare products and apparently changed the ingredient to something else.
Since then she has not had a problem. People are so quick to complain before contacting someone for help.
What a bunch of b.s.
Advocare won't even certify their products gluten/nut free and you wan't people to believe that they re-formulated a product for "a friend of yours"?!?
Get real!
Niacin is an ingredient in some products, but most do not have the type of reaction you've described. When I read your story my first reaction is, "Why would you take a product you're allergic to for over a year, especially when there are over 80 products?" More importantly, when is the last time you spoke with the person who introduced you to AdvoCare?
Also, if I can help send me an email paterakis669@***.com. Finally, call 180******** to ask about the money back guarantee.
Advocare is awesome
Someone didn't do something wrong because they had a reaction to Advocare due to side effects. Just because it worked for you doesn't mean others need to be put down critically since they were fantastic for you.
I don't want to judge you for judging, but if we don't know the stories of others, doctor's scientific proof on the ingredients, and how it's affected people in a negative way, means we don't know beyond the shadow of a doubt, and shouldn't say "well people are wrong" if they don't like Advocare products. You have no proof, and these people have major scientific proof from their doctors regarding the ingredients.
I'd listen. Glad it worked for you, and you have no side effects, but I'd advise you or anyone to see a doctor first.
ADVOCARE ROCKS!!! It has given me and my husband back our life.
Down 53lbs. since March and husband down 63lbs. I am down 3 pants and 2 shirt sizes and he is down 5 pants and 3 shirt sizes. I am no longer diabetic or high cholesterol.
I have tried every thing all my life with no success. With Advocare it gave us the will to change our old habits. We are truly blessed.
Advocare works.
I just finished the 24 day challenge yesterday. Followed all the guidelines and worked out 6 days a week.
About the last week or so I had gained weight and weighed more then when I started.
Eating better is always a good choice but the ridiculous amount of "supplements" you take is absurd. I didn't pay all that money to gain....I could have done that on my own.
I have no affiliation with Advocare and never met you - so I am only guessing, but perhaps working out so much; you did actually lose weight, but gained muscle? Muscle weighs more than fat.
It's possible, but you would be the one to judge that by how you look, feel, and how your clothes fit. That just is a very real possibility.
Fruits and vegetables are a lot cheaper than supplements, and they are proven to help lose weight through peer reviewed literature. There is no science backing advocare.
heather,
According to Advocare all of their products work for everyone. Obviously, this is not the truth.
You trusted some store clerk for dietary information and they were wrong. Did you learn your lesson? No! You went to some uneducated Advocare rep. and fell for the hype.
Why you lost weight has everything to do with changing your diet and exercising and NOTHING to do with the products you're wasting your money on!
i spent over 400 at complete nutrition on products that the sales person told me would work amazing not only did i not loose weight i was sick half the time. then they refused to refund any of my money.
i spent 200 on advocare and dropped over 30 pounds and felt amazing enough i joined for the discount. not all products work for everyone and all nutrition companys have products that suck ***
My sister tried the plan and followed it to a T....she is not lazy at all. She gained a pound.
she discovered she has Hashimotos...My husband tried it as well and it did not work for him. It does not work for EVERYONE...many situations where it might not work...
I have Hadhimotos disease also, and as long as my thyroid levels are in the correct range I don't have any problem losing the weight with these products , but if my levels are out of range I don't lose and may gain like your sister no matter what I do. She should try again once her thyroid levels are where they need to be.
Or, stop taking advocrap and start eating right.
There is absolutly zero scientific proof that Advocare does anything other than empty your wallet.
Sucralose(A chemically changed form of sugar)
Pointing to the sucralose as a cause of headaches when you start a 24 day challenge is an inflammatory comment. If the headache continued throughout the challenge, I would say nothing.
There are many changes that happen during the start of something new to your body that could point to such symptoms, including improper application of products. I've never had pain that I could point toward the products I take.
Sucralose is linked to leukemia.
I have read several reports and it showed that sucralose is safe and efficient. It is regulated by the FDA and all products of advocare has been tested for their safety before being dispense.
""Sucralose has been accepted by several national and international food safety regulatory bodies, including the FDA, Joint Food and Agriculture Organization / World Health Organization Expert Committee on Food Additives, the European Union's Scientific Committee on Food, Health Protection Branch of Health and Welfare Canada, and Food Standards Australia New Zealand (FSANZ). According to the Canadian Diabetes Association, the amount of sucralose that can be consumed over a person's lifetime without any adverse effects is 9 milligrams per day per kilogram of body weight.[23][24]
"In determining the safety of sucralose, the FDA reviewed data from more than 110 studies in humans and animals.
Many of the studies were designed to identify possible toxic effects, including carcinogenic, reproductive, and neurological effects. No such effects were found, and FDA's approval is based on the finding that sucralose is safe for human consumption." For example, McNeil Nutritional LLC studies submitted as part of its U.S.
FDA Food Additive Petition 7A3987 indicated that "in the 2-year rodent bioassays ... there was no evidence of carcinogenic activity for either sucralose or its hydrolysis products ..."[25]""
ok, honest to a t, if you have had a *** problem twice now, stop taking the ***. stop posting that your doctor has deemed the products unsafe food you.
because now that you have stated that *** it just show you're fishing for sympathy. which in my opinion is pathetic. do something else with your life other than blaming something else for your completely *** choice in doing a second go around. and furthermore, if you are a distributor, how are you ever gonna advance in selling the product if right from the start you push all possibilities away, advocate is a company much the same a gnc, max nutrition...
and all the others, the health issues are your problem. especially if your gonna keep doing it and damaging you own body. myself, I'm am not fat or anything like but have started it. I am 53 days in and I feel amazing and I am also only 23 years old and the change in my energy level is amazing compared to just two month ago.
also should inform you that not medical problem. thanks from small *** town in arkansas
Let me see here,are you a diabetic? If you are then what do you recommend to me to eat.
Let me explain something to you idiots that are overweight, and can eat anything they want. But wait, what is that, you can't have bread, soy, wheat, any food coloring, cereal, sugar, fats, and over 90 ingredients that is banned in Europe and Asia and you are worried about supra lose. I will tell you want, you build yourself a garden, without using pesticides, grow veg., fruits that is if you live in the south, have chickens , cows, pigs, and whatever you want.
So my advice live on a farm.
advocare sucks. I tried it, and got kidney stones.
Then my wife left me because I didn't have insurance and the medical bill was atrocious. I lost my house and half my assets.
All because stinkin advocare. Advocare made me lose my life.
Ok! I think your kidney problems and family problems has nothing to do with Advocare.
My advice to you is seek out counseling and stop blaming Advocare for you problems.
Advocare has nothing to do with kidney stones or you losing your wife, house, and anything else you can think of. Stop making excuses and get into some serious counseling.
Wrong! One of the ingredients in AdvoCare products - sucralose does INDEED cause gastrointestinal problems and kidney problems.
And I will point out that I'm an AdvoCare Distributor. This is my second time around. The first time a few years ago I was having gastrointestinal problems but didn't know the cause other than it started when I started using the products and cleared when I stopped. This time, my problems are more intense and I went to the doctor and took all the ingredients of everything I was taking and my doctor noticed the sucralose in Spark and in the Meal replacement shakes.
Bingo! Sucralose can cause kidney stones, seizures, dizziness, migraines, blurred vision, allergic reactions, blood sugar increases, and weight gain. As of today I have stopped taking the Spark and the Meal Replacement Shakes and will see if my problems clear up on their own or not. Based on my previous experience I'm betting they will.
So - your extremely RUDE comments to the previous poster are way out of line. He can blame anyone he wants to even if he should also turn that blame on himself as I am for not doing my research better in the first place. He voiced his opinion and I realize you are voicing yours as well but let's not be so cruel about it. There's quite enough of that in this world as it is.
As for AdvoCare - I love Spark and the 24 Day Program was successful for me but, that doesn't mean that it's right or even healthy for everyone - I love fried foods, ice cream and candy too - you have to be your own judge. AdvoCare does use artificial sweeteners and for many people that can cause permanent or temporary health issues. Research and do what is best for you.
For me as a distributor, I will let people know my experience so they can choose for themselves but, I will not hide and say it didn't happen because that is poor business and I sure as heck don't want my health problems to happen to anyone else as it is painful, expensive and life style changing.
Here come the zealots that defend things to the core......the Mormons of the "health nutrition" world.
Anything that's modified with chlorine and then ingested can't possibly do anything good to your body.
Avocare. I have a family member who is a distributor for the product, had a stroke
I have a family member who is an avocare distributor for this product and is in fact nuts about this product and just had a stroke, MDs wondering if there is a correlation.....BEWARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This *** could be dangerous...This is an unbelievable situation ...................I think that people need to understand what they are doing with their bodies so that a similar situation does not occur to them.
49 years old and otherwise healthy indivual with a stroke and lucky to be alive and still concerned about taking her avocare. Its almost like she has been brainwahsed.
Please pay attention to what is being put into a body.
A young (30) friend of mine, also an avid spark drinker and distributor, recently had a stroke as well.
A young lady just died of a stroke too.
this product game me the worst headaches I have ever had! It does not work nearly as well as the optimum nutrition brand I regularly buy and it is twice as expensive.
I would not recommend this product and will not be buying more.
I now have a heart problem from drinking Spark....afib. Never had a single health problem before using Advocare. Advocate has ruined my heart.
A friend of mine is 32 years old. She just had a stroke and lost a lot of weight with Advocare.
I'm wondering if there's a coorlation here. 32 is pretty young to have a stroke!
Since you have decided to remain unknown - it is hard to decide if this person had a family history - or any other health concerns (stress, overweight, etc.) setting her up for a stroke. It is NOT uncommon in women to have a stroke at 49 years of age.
It is, unfortunately, more common than one would think.
If your concern with AvoCare products with one particular section? i.e. SPARK?
One should ALWAYS limit consumption of any products that contain caffeine - Splenda and other ingredients in SPARK.
I limit mine to 1 (8oz.) serving in the morning - replacing a 4 cup cafe addiction. Even my blood pressure is down!
I had a stroke in 2008, and almost died. I was 37 and in great health.
Eat well and excerise are my norms!
Doctors still have no clue why this happened. The reason for my response is I am interested in this product, just want you and others to know strokes happen to healthy people.
I actually would not be shocked if caused a stroke. the science behind it would simply be that a clot or other blockage was forming due to prior lack of health or fluke heath issues, and then when advocare products did thier job and clences and washed through the system, they would dislodge the already existing clot or other blockage and cause the stroke. that does not mean the products are at fault, but simply moved along a preexisting condition.
Good grief.
You are the perfect example of the evil within Advocare and mlm.
Consumer-Lab did NOT rank and supplement. They NEVER SAID that Advocare was, "one of the top two"!
So, here you are - with thousands of other Advocare flag wavers - woefully under educated and completely unqualified to give nutritional, dietary, or medical advice to anyone, doing just that; spreading lies.
Anyone trusting the info coming from some mlm distributor needs to have their head checked.
Thats what I said, it was present by an independent lab. They are experts at what they do.
He says the top two choices were those two brands, so ya I trust what he says. No one is forcing anyone to buy anything. It is working for me. I've lost 26 lbs and I feel great.
If its not for you that's fine, it's not for you. No one has to "buy in" to anything. You buy it full retail, just like going to Walmart. If you want a wholesale membership that's available as well to you, offering a discount, like Costco does.
I'm seeing how this is such an evil plot honestly.
If you hate the product, don't use it. The whole point here is that the likely hood of vitamins causing a stroke is next to none.
Child abuser
You have a distributor Tifan Cox of Checotah Oklahoma who is a convicted felony child abuser in 2006 she was going by the name Tifani Ballard she attempted to kill her then 17 month old daughter by beating her beyond recognition i cant believe a family oriented company such as yourself would allow such an evil person to represent your company you can check this out in the oklahoma court records she is on a 20 year suspended sentence does not pay child support and has a permanent protective order against her i will tell everyone i know how you allow such an animal to work for you thats a fact
Look people i dont know why this cant be dropped it hurt our family deeply we are concentrating on keeping this child healthy and happy please just leave it alone smdh
I agree with joan, what difference does it make to you especially since you know it isn't the truth. And how would you know she is doing Advocare if you were stalking her.
Trash begets trash!
Being you are Illinois, what difference does it make to you? Just what is Advocare, anyway, is it a daycare or what?
If it isn't a daycare it shouldn't matter. She has as much right to a job as anybody else. Does she have a court ordered child support order against her? There again, how do you know she isn't paying child support?
To me it sounds like you are a vindictive person trying to make trouble for somebody you don't like.
Have you told the company she works for of you suspicions? That would be the thing to do instead of going public with these accusations.
Advocare is an amazing company
lol...so sad how many miserable people are on here. I paid 3k to hit advisor, and sold all the products at a discounted rate.
At the end I lost about 100 dollars from my initial investment, and ended up with a 40% discount rate. I have 3 people under me who I didn't approach, they met me at the gym and inquired about the products I use, then a week later became distributors.
I make about 300 a month on advocare, and I never approach anyone. While some may consider this a failure, I take it as a huge success, you get what you put in, I put in hardly anything, and came out with a steady income that will only get bigger if I chose to put more effort in
You can claim the ingredients or whatever your vag has issues with, but at the end of the day all the ingredients are disclosed on the website, if you're too much of a fool to be able to comprehend simple english, then you should prob not worry yourself over critiquing products :P
So, which is it? In one post you said that you make $500.00 per month. In this post, you say that you make "about" $300.00 per month. Is it the drugs that you take? The hits to the head? If simple math is that difficult for you, why in the world should anyone accept your advise?
You got yourself caught up in the mlm sales pitch, dropped a bunch of cash on ***, and now you're trying desperately to recoup some of your losses by scamming others.
It doesn't take more than a third grade education to know that if someone can give you a 40% discount that they are charging you at least 40% too much to begin with!
You would do well by hitting the books instead of the weights. Education is your friend, embrace your friend!
If you need more info, check out the Facebook page Advocare:The Truth.
Dear MR. Charles,
The average start up business enjoys these statistics:
First Year – 85% success
Second Year – 70% success
Third year – 62% success
Fourth Year – 55% success
Fifth Year 50% success
The average income (after expenses) is $45,000; about equal to the Gold 3 Star .44% in Advocare.
The Ohio State University in 1999 found that only 26% of newly established restaurants failed in the first year with a further 19% and 16% failing in the second and third years respectively.
Again, Advocare has a failure rate of over 95%!
Anyone who has not partaken of the "kool-aid" and possesses ANY common sense can see that mlm is a failure of a business model and should be avoided at all costs.
Dietitians and nutritionists need at least a Bachelors degree in order to become licensed.
Why in the wold would anyone want to get their nutrition advice from an uneducated salesman who's main motivation is to get people to "sign-up"???
Wendy...."Nobody, in their right mind, would get involved in a business with a 95% failure rate."
Any start-up business has a 95% failure rate, Advocare just requires comparatively minimal initial costs. And immensely reduced opperating costs. So what's your point?
Direct Marketing will ALWAYS work. Its a numbers game and if you are focusing on the losing numbers, that is what you will get.
"(0.44%)...make a "reasonable" income...." What is "reasonable" to you? To them? Keep in mind MOST people are involved with Advocare AS CUSTOMERS, and not interested in taking the business side seriously.
Finally, NAOMI, you can contact me for information on the products. They are simple and vitamin-based. You pay more, but what you pay for is a SERVICE attached to the product. A person who you can call for information, a person you can talk to about nutrition. A person who has seen results on the products. chuckan_18@***.com.
Sincerely,
Charles
Acording to Advocare's income disclosure statement less than half of one percent (.44%) are ever able to make a reasonable income selling their stuff.
With all these people saying they are making bunch of money one of two things can only be true; the few people making money are posting all over the net under different names or every body is lying - fake it till you make it.
If Advocare's income disclosure statement is wrong then they are facing some serious legal repercussions.
So, which is it? Who is doing all of the lying?
i love advocare and i have been doing it for four years and every year my income goes up. our income is $80,000 a year for the last 2 years. it does work and like everything else there is a system to follow and if you don't follow it, it will not work.
I have financial freedom.
Naomi, your best and only option (unless your doctor states otherwise) is to eat right and exercise.
There is no magic pill, powder or potion that will cause you to lose weight. No matter what sellers want you to believe.
Your best bet is to go directly to your doctor and take their advice.
I am looking for ways to lose weight fast but in a healthy way i have a blockage in my heart my live ris failing and i have type 2 diabetes i need to lose weight and get my diabetes under control as soon as possible but i dont want to take anything that will harm my body so is advocare not good for me and all the messages i read fake and was put there by people who actully sell the product to make more money or is it really effective and can lose weight off of it is very expensive for the product but i ma desprite in trying to find a solution to my problem can anyone please help me out if advocare is a great healthy product and if it has side effects or is there something else i should be trying and using that wont harm my already delicate body thanks ,Naomi
I have been in fitness and supplements a lot longer than 8 years, and I can tell you that Advocare is a waste of money.I am currently an Epidemiologist Division Director, and conduct research daily, and can tell you that this product does not stack up to many others. I also was in a special duty assignment for 8 years in the military before I got into medicine, and currently am very active in combat sports.
I am very educated on what I put into my body, and Advocare is not a product I would endorse to anybody.
There are much cheaper, more effecive and less riskful products available. If any Advocare person would like to have an educated conversation about the suppliments, medicine, or why I don't advocate this product, feel free to ask, I don't hide.
Judging by your writing style, you either lack any higher education or refuse to use it.
If you're making a profit selling Advocare, prove it. Otherwise, you're just blowing smoke. (BTW, a profit can only be shown after all expenses are paid)
If you truly did research the company, and still made the choice o get involved, you're a fool. Obviously you only found what Advocare wants you to find. Nobody, in their right mind, would get involved in a business with a 95% failure rate.
As far as mlm being the "business of the future", that statement alone proves just how misguided you really are. Direct selling worked in the 1950's. It's since been replaced with much more effective modes of selling. In order for direct sales to be of any real significance today, customers will have to completely change they way the shop and buy goods.
To cap off the lunacy of your post, you seem to honestly believe that this was a good forum to place a sales pitch.
MLM does fails over 95% of the time. This is a proven fact.
Advocare products do nothing but empty your bank account, cause you to loose friends and family and act a fool by trying to convince people that you've found a "magic formula".
Advocare- not for ignorant people
I started Advocare 4 months ago and I have never felt better. I started with the 24 day challenge and continued with the program.
Am I where I want to be? No, but I am on the road there. I have lost 1 pants size and my energy is through the roof. I know there are skeptics to anything out there, but my challenge to you is this, just try it.
You don't have to sign up you don't have to ever use it again. I will bet you that once you try it even just a couple of the products you will be a believer and you will FEEL and SEE the difference. All products are not created equal, I know that no one at Walmart or GNC has ever called me to check and see if the products I bought are working or how they make me feel or if they aren't that I could turn them in for something different? Show me one time that has happened and I will stand on my head.
Yes this is a marketing business, and??? Why is this frowned upon? Sharing products you love and believe in and use every day, this is wrong? Isn't that what every business should be built on?
My plan may not end up being your plan but I promise Advocare has a plan for you. Also do you know how many people in America are overweight, and in financial trouble? Way too many! My friend was paid $8,000 last month as a Advocare distibutor, yeah who wants to be a stay at home parent and make $8,000 a month and make her family healthy????
UM, ME that's who!!! If that is not for you then move on and find what works for you.
If this may be for you please contact me or go to my page. www.advocare.com/15039****
Not all products are the same. An independent test was done on many products made by many companies, including those off store shelves.
No Frank, to think they are just as good is ignorant. Study shows you don't usually get what is posted on the bottle. Advocare came out one of the top 2 companies.
You do get what you pay for from Advocare. Don't knock it if you haven't tried it.
@MCAT
Your post is a fantastic example of ignorance. Please, prove me wrong by replying with proof of your claim, "Advocare came out one of the top 2 companies."
I really is too bad that some people such as Frank seem to think that just getting the same product elsewhere will give you the same result. Some people bash others for wasting money on all kinds of things.
MLM has changed some people who wanted change and not helped people who didnt want it enough. MLM's are truly a You Do You Get type of business.
It sounds like you may have been given products and didnt use them according to the instructions. My best friend lost 50lbs and has kept it off for 4 years. My wife just did her 24 Day Challenge and lost only 15lbs but lost 4 dress sizes and 25 inches.
We believe that other companies and products probably work but Advocare works for us period. Im sorry that you may have had your bad experience but maybe you should look in the mirror first and you may just find out why it didnt work for you.
People dislike mlm for a reason. A lot of reasons actually. A lot of very real reasons.
If you want to waste your money on Advocare, that's your choice.
But remember this, there is no "magic pill" that will help you lose weight. There are no ingredients in Advocare products proven to work. What "active ingredients" Advocare does include are not in sufficient quantities to do anything but take your money.
The only safe and proven way of losing weight is my eating right and exercise. All of Advocares weight loss "programs" include directions on changing your eating habits and exercising. THAT is where the results come from.
If Advocare actually had a product proven to help you lose weight, do you really think that it would be kept a secret known only to this within the Advocare "circle"??? It's all over the news and around the world if were true.
If you insist on using nutritional supplements, buy them from a company that is not mlm. You'll save yourself a ton of money and what is sold on store shelves is just as good, if not better, than what you'll buy from any mlm.
You are incorrect. For example, the Meal Replacement Shakes are a perfectly balanced carb to protein ratio.
That results in hormonal balances, therefore a slender physique. Also, Advocare IS all around the world, now. It's been around for 21 years, and is now in the Top 20 Largest Companies by the Direct Sales Association. Our products are in every NFL locker room and is on the "march to a billion dollar company" this year.
It took Nike longer to reach a billion dollars.
Just a thought that you should probably do a little more research before making assumptions. :)
That's where your wrong Frank D.. Last September I was over 310 lbs and started with the 24 day challenge..
To date I have lost 70 lbs and still losing.. I have tried all kinds of products and diets and Advocare has literally changed me and my family's life.. If people could get our caliber of products then why is it that we have professional athletes that endorse our products and are compensated with our products? I currently make 5k/mo as a distributor just by sharing what Advocare is all about..
With this company I have changed many lives..
Believe it or not.. We"re the real deal...
Frank D., I see you continuing to bash Advocare in these forums and I'm wondering what your experience has been to make you take so much of your own time to find arguments against it?
I'm very skeptical about Advocare right now but I am trying the products to see whether they are something that might benefit my clients. So far I've had some very good success with their Spark product (substituting it for my coffee) so I'm now going to try the 24 day challenge.
In terms of money spent, you really need to look at it in terms of whether you get value from the product or not. Someone can sign up with a 24 hour fitness for $19.99 per month and have it be a complete waste of their money as they never go, it doesn't fit their lifestyle, and they don't get any healthier. The same person can pay $600 per month for a personal trainer and get excellent results. And that $600 per month will be the best money they've ever spent because they've found a way to improve their health that works for them and their lifestyle.
It's not good enough to just bash a product because it may not have worked for you. Not everything is for everyone. I've looked at your references and I am not impressed with your arguments. Again, I just started trying Advocare products. I actually came to this forum to see what the detractors say about the products as I often get better information this way than listening solely to those who like the product. So far though I've not seen anything other than a dislike for MLM's in general.
Seeking info re Advocare
I am preparing an article for a well-known national publication on Advocare, the health and wellness multi-level marketing company. If you would like to share your experiences -- positive or negative -- about the company's products and business strategy, please contact me at advocareinformation@***.com.
I am hoping to speak with current or former executives, distributors and retail customers, who can speak about the quality of Advocare's products, and the effectiveness of the company's stated mission to help people earn significant additional income and eliminate personal debt.
The information you share will be regarded as anonymous unless you express otherwise.
Thank you.
I did the 10 day cleanse with no problems, definitely need to drink the fiber drink quickly or it turns to a jello consistency.
However three days into the second phase of the 24 day challenge my face, neck, chest and back began to get very warm and red like I was sunburnt. I started to feel very itchy and my face began to tingle like it does right before it goes numb.
Obviously I knew i was having an allergic reaction so I took Benadryl and went to sleep.
The fourth day I woke up and my face was swollen, not horribly but enough to cause concern and go to urgent care. I told the doctor I had just started this new phase and while looking at the ingredients he noticed the crazy amount of niacin in the product. Side effects in high doses of niacin yep that's right redness of skin especially in the face and neck, itchy, numbness/tingling, and dryness in the skin.
So Long story short I'm on medications for a week and will not be using this product again. **Definitely consult your physician just in case u may be allergic to something in these products!!!
On a different note I know several people who use advocare products without any problems.
http://www.ehealthme.com/sa/214****/vomitingobviously I am not the only one!
I tried Advocate because my best friend was selling it and claimed it would change my life. Well it did for the worst.
It caused headaches, stomach cramping and projectile vomiting. I was in such abdominal pain that I could hardly move. I stopped taking it and I was fine. Since I wanted to like it, I stupidly tried it again with the exact same results.
That being said, there will not be Advocate in my life! It is sad when you are so ill that you can't even keep liquids down!
I did lose 30 pounds in 4 months using Curves Complete!
JUST TO MAKE YOU AWARE IF YOU ARE READING THESE REVIEWS. I did not post the comment on June 6, 2012.
Someone has made up an account just to steal my identity and posting negative information about me and Advocare, the company that I actually do believe in and use the products as well as I am an Independent Distributor who is helping people with lifestyle changes. I have even asked this site to remove all of the 3 postings that someone felt they needed to post to try to hurt me as well as interfere with the success that Advocare is having in our community of Denham Springs and Watson, LA.
THE REAL Karla Cormier who is proud to be an Independent Distributor of AdvoCare products.
And for some reason, this shows that I am posting this from an area other than Denham Springs, LA...which also is another error!!! Do not trust this site!
We can all save money and just do Slim FAST and vitamins all at WAL MaRT!!!!
Advocate
Is for *** people that enjoy waisting away money.
Just saying
I am interested in the weight loss products. I have been reading up on the products and I am not sure which ones to use.
I think I will start with the 24 day challenge butI am not sure what to take after that. Please let me know what you are taking to continue the weight loss journey after the 24 day challenge.
Listen... we have TESTIMONY after TESTIMONY about the GREAT benefits of Advocare...
my husbands story regarding his weight loss on the 24 Day Challenge was published in a North Alabama Magazine... Contact Us WE CAN HELP!
www.Advocare.com/12112****
and we would be happy to show you before and after pics of many we have helped, along with their testimonies.
Personal testimonies are about as trust worthy as late night infomercials.
If Advocare really believed in their products they would publish the scientific studies proving that their products work.
Advocare has been in business for 20 years and they have yet to provide any scientific proof supporting their products.
people who.post negative need to just really need to get a life any company will have those who have nothing else better to do than talk bad. advocare is great millions love it and it works if u try. if someone wants a quick fix get lipo and take the easy way.
KARLA C. SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF HERSELF!!
Excessive Refund processing
I have been an Advocare distributor for over a year and a half now. I can't say enough about these products and this company.
I lost 30 lbs and have kept it off for a year now and feel better and look better than I have for 20 years. I have helped so many people with weight loss and just overall feeling good.
And all the people I know who are involved with Advocare always advise people to check with their doctor first if they have health issues and/or take medications. This is a very ethical company and I am proud to be a distributor for them.
Anytime anyone says a product is good for everyone, buyer beware. I have CMT which is a neuro muscular disease and just recently found out I could not take mega doses of vitamin B6 which is in Spark.
Spark has 7 1/2 the times of the daily recommended allowance of vitamin B6. So for those of you making blanket statements, you might want to reconsider. It is impossible to "research" every known disease and know if these products will affect individuals in a negative manner. I was very ill doing the cleanse and I eat a very healthy organic diet.
I intend to ask the person who sold these products for a refund.
I was looking for a little extra energy during my workouts and just ended up making myself sick with these "healthy" products.
If you are making money, great, welcome to capitalism. Accusing others of being lazy without knowing them is unfair and just plain mean and uncalled for.
Advocare is for winners, we are champions! If the products arent working for you, its because you are obviously doing something wrong. Dont blame Advocare for your bad eating habits and unhealthy lifestyle!!
No matter what your or your wifes job is, you aren't an expert on everything. All of the Advocare distributors I have talked to are the same way, they promise all kinds of things.
advocare is run by liars and thieves. their product is second rate and their marketing plan needs help to get to 2nd rate.
If you want to use their trash products i would suggest just burning your money instead. if you want to be a distributor i would caution you to check out the numerous lawsuits that advocare has terminated and lost the court cases that have resulted from their greed and stupidity.
i know for a fact they have lost at least 6 lawsuits from former distributors. found those by checking dallas county courts online.
Im starting advocare and I really like it, but for those
That don't anytime u buy something always put
It on a credit card and don't use ur debit for the
Simple reason with a credit card u can always
Dispute ur purchase and get ur $ back immediately
So saves the hassle, I thought everybody knew
This.
The products which make you FEEL immediately great might not be the best for you! Herbal "speed" feels great, but central nervous system stimulants have their risks!
Anyone who would give "speed", herbal or otherwise, to a kid is unethical, to say the least.
If you want to risk your own health, go for it! No Advocare for anyone I care about!
Wow, I've heard some whoppers in my time but sating your doctor told you not to take something that is absolutely incredibly good for you is a new one. My wife is a nurse practitioner and I am a nurse.
Together we combine 27 years of education and medical experience. We researched Advocare to the fullest, tried the products, searched the products under the informed-choice.org and found they are of the highest quality for nutrition. If you think this is a joke check out www.AdvocareHealth.co and look at the Medical Advisory Board. These are some of the top medical doctor's in the world regarding nutrition.
By the way, your Gastric doctor told you to watch what you eat, not stop taking vitamins and minerals. I'm telling you this from experience considering I have done Gastric Bypasses as a surgical assist for the last 7 years. Finally, getting your money back takes time from any company, refer to statement #1.
That's exactly what happens. Regardless of what you choose to do with your life, if you're looking for superior nutrition and weight loss, Advocare is your vehicle!
you obviously do not understand the whole bank processing and company accounting. first you paid them but they really dont know for sure that you actually paid with a honest payment method, you could have used a stolen credit card or bank account number.
it takes at least ten day to insure that your payment went through before they will want to refund anything. also as an accountant i can tell you that processing your purchase was all automated and only took minutes because a computer handles it. whereas processing your refund has to be touched by atleast a couple on employees to make sure everything is there and approved. this means that the employee has to handle their paper work in the order it comes and i'm sure yours was one of a few in a pile which then got sent to an upper level person to approve.
because companies dont let just any of their employees run around making out checks to people and then it was probably put in a pile to wait until that person got to it.
it's just standard accountanting process. every company has to do the samething.
If anyone is intertested in Good Quality Nutrition, please visit my website: www.shopherbalife.com/kkelly2
I have been a distributor with this company now for a couple of years and none of my customers are unhappy with any of our product. We offer a 100% satisfaction guarantee or your money back after 30 days.
Herbalife is a pharmacuetical grade company that is growing by leaps and bounds because their products are the highest of quality if your looking to improve your nutrition, boost your energy or control your weight!
Best in health,
Kelly
Vancouver, Wa
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So hows did this work for you?
I am mailing you something, *** I may even pay u a visit sometime.
I second "Anon"!
I'm a Dickinson girl (til I moved to Austin for college, marriage & all that BS).....NEVER post your home address......NEVER, NEVER, NEVER.....
Hi Teresa, if you are still interested in Advocare I can help you. You can contact me at alemtzchapa@***.com
You really shouldn't openly post your home address like that.
Tearsa, I would be happy to send some samples to you if you would like. If you know someone who uses the products and is happy, you should feel confident in trusting what they say about what the products have done for them.
Please let me know if you are interested. I love them and am happy to help others. If the business opportunity is for you, fine. If not, that's fine too.
I usually just tell people I want them to know what I have and what they could have as well, and they can let me know when or IF they're ever interested in finding out more information. :)
by the way, here is my contact information in case you are interested:678-294-**** (text)